My Uncommon Philosophies

My Philosophies


"A man who relies on the aid of a god deserves the help he doesn't get." - Lady, Dreams of Steel, by Glen Cook

Last UPDATED:
February 3rd, 2004
(A Link to a website called In-Sight)

May 19th, 2003
("Worthless Pride" Paragraph, "Canadian Gov't Looking at Bill for Same Sex Marriages" rant, "Which enemy of the christian church am i?" Quiz Result, "Fat Cat" Rant, "I Do give Christians a Hard Time, Don't I?" rant)
2001
(Tripod pages can only be so long, so i divided this page into 2 parts, and a couple of pages.)

This main page here will be where my Religious Philosophies will be, and HERE will be my Non-Religious Philosophies



NOTE: I am not a Satanist. And no matter what you want to say or believe, my lack of faith in your god doesn't automatically declare that i must be a Satan worshipper. I do not hate or discriminate against Christ-like individuals, i do criticize and question christians and their christianity. My definition of the word "Christ-like" is someone who doesn't follow the corrupt rules created by people in power to keep themselves in power. My definition of a "Christian" is someone who just wants to be a part of the currently leading group of exclusionists. This is the way i speak on my page. I will use these definitions on my page. You will see certain terms like "Bible-Thumper." These comments do not mean i am prejudiced against all christians (cuz some don't even know what they're doing and have a chance to still become christ-like), but that i am prejudiced against Bible-Thumpers. There is no reason we should tolerate hate and discrimination from anyone, at any time! Thank you, and enjoy...

PS- I invite any of you to refute any of the opinions i have included on this page. If i find your arguement better argued than i find my own, then i'll change the page accordingly. I do not expect any of you to take these things as dogma. If you agree, then cool! If you don't agree, then cool! Tell me your comments! I am not wishy washy, but i do think about everything that is presented to me, and if i find something true that refutes my beliefs, i'll change them! I dare anyone to prove "God" to me!
Email: oylz_daefkt@hotmail.com



Worthless Pride!
Speaking of Worthless, i just wish people would just swallow their worthless pride and STOP fighting each other all the time! It's neverending, you hear of some Palestinian who wants to bomb this, and an Israeli wanting to sabotage that ... JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP!! Lose that WORTHLESS pride, because if all it can create is HATE (which is all i have ever seen pride and patriotism do) then it is WORTHLESS! You are so COMPLETELY not following your god, and you think you are the HOLY ONES? Holy SHIT is more like it!
GOD DAMN!!!



The Canadian Gov't is looking at the Bill to Legalize Same Sex Marriages!
One morning on the radio news they are trying to pass the bill of gay marriages! I was so excited, cuz love is love, no matter what color, creed or gender! Now, i am not an advocate for marriage specifically, and i think it's just obsolete religious stuff meant for a man to own a woman, or in the terms of it in this day and age, just a way to have a knot tied to someone who you don't know you may not love in 10 years. But if they want to do it and stuff, i don't see any reason why gay couples can't marry.
One stupid congressman or cabinet member (whatever we call them in Canada) said, "If they wanna live together, let'em live together and SHUT UP ABOUT IT!" That comment made my blood boil. I hope he gets "fired" or whatever the word would be for "hate crimes" haha.
Then another guy tries to throw a red herring into it, "Well, if you re-write the rules of marriage, then what's stopping polygamy? Can i just have as many wives as i want?"
Now, I am not exactly against polygamy ... i think if people are in love and they happen to be in love with all of each other, then why not? but that has nothing to do with gay marriages. they are just asking for monogomy, it's not like they are asking to shake up the whole system. they just want to be included as being considered PEOPLE in LOVE!
Damned jews and christians who came in and wrote rules to condone bigotry against gay people. And now, i feel like no matter how many times i explain this, i still have to write ANOTHER disclaimer:

I have a different definition of Christian than most people. And when i say Christian, i mean MY definition.
Christian: A club member, a person who joins a group of the common north american religion just so that they can say that they are a part of that group, and use that religion as the shield for their prejudice.
Christ-Like Individual: a person who actually follows the teachings of christ (whether consciously thinking of Christ himself, or just following their own method of peace), someone who isn't just a blind club-member bigot. Someone who is nice and actually caring. Someone who may, or may not be devout to a religion, but does not use that religiousness/non-religiousness to promote hate. Among christians, these people are about 7 out of 1000. I have no beef with those 7.
When i say christian, i am saying, "blind club-member who practices hate under a veil of their god."
When i say christ-like, i am saying, "A person who is actually respectable, and follows the creed, 'If it harms none, do what you will.'"
And for all you who say, "well, i don't hate homosexuals, but they are sinners and will go to hell." Fuck you, cuz you obviously don't have any idea of what love means, and you are just passing the buck back to your god. "It's not my policy, but it's my god's policy." Hiding your hate by blaming your god. "But my god doesn't hate!" Then why would he send gay people to hell and label them sinners?
Yes, i understand a lot of the rules in the old testament were meant to preserve life and health and safety. But it was no divine word. It was a human who read on the history of the civilizations and gods and stuff that happened BEFORE jehovah was created, and decided to put together some guidelines that he or she figured would help people stop dying needlessly. Possibly a physician of those times. His ideas taken by a greedy ruler who also incorporated the "women are property" bullshit into it. But anyway, my point was, so homosexuality wouldn't help continue the race, and back then they were doing all they could to survive. But what of it now? Why do so many people cling onto that ancient bigotry when we have world over-population?
Children don't understand the difference between religious rules and hate. The lesson children get from being taught religion is, "My god is right, any person that does not like my god is wrong. This person must be excluded as a possible friend."
I notice one of the first things little kids would ask me is, "Do you believe in god?" as if it's a prerequisit to their friendship or trust! It's disgusting!
It should be illegal to teach kids religion until they are at least 16-18 ... and teach them ALL religions, so they can make their own choice. It is SO WRONG to teach kids to hate like that at such a young age! You may not realize it, but that's the most basic rule that kids learn, and it made life difficult for kids like me who were not brought up in religious homes. It made for non religious kids to have a real rough time in school, because kids would hate me simply because i said, "No, i don't believe in god."
Older people hide that hate behind, "Well, i don't hate ya, but you're going to hell."
It's like a blind-sided slap in the face, which means nothing. If you aren't willing to stand up to your god for what is TRULY the right thing to do, not what some humans wrote thousands of years ago as to be the right things to do, then you are not Christ-like ... you are just a christian club member, blindly following the rules so that you don't LOOK like you're not following them. This is what i mean, and for those who have been offended by me using the broad term of Christian now know what i mean.
Got it? Good, then there should be no more needless offendings. You 7 out of a thousand good guys know what i am talking about.



I'm an Atheist!



Which Enemy of the Christian Church Are You?


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The Fat Cat at the Top of the Corporate Ladder
The other day i was thinking about Narcissus ... or is it Narciss? Anyhoo, about him who got so enraptured by his reflection in a pond he stayed like that forever or something (i don't know the exact tale) ... but it got me thinking ... You know, the ancient people created their gods and spirits to embody each human trait. Be them good or bad traits, they created a god for love, a god for hate, a god for pride, etc... Each god had a responsibility for what us humans are. And you know when the people who created the judeo-christian god came around, they created him to be more like a big, weasily fat-cat at the top of the corporate ladder, who's legal mumbo-jumbo allows him to say, "I only mass-produce the people, i can't be blamed if a few bad apples are made." And the people WANT to believe this for some reason. That their god is perfect. Man, a god that orders us to say he is the greatest over all other gods, and who doesn't take responsibility for his own mistakes, who sits there in his corporate office counting his $ouls like money sounds like a god i want NO part in following! He's like a little spoiled child, who inherited his fortune from his daddy (whom he probably killed) and has no idea how to run a kingdom properly.
I much prefer the ancient gods. you know the ones that were around longer than jehovah, or yaweh or "I am" ... they at least make sense and take responsibility for the types of humans they helped create. And that is all it really is, a matter of preference. Cuz no god has proven his existence. All us humans can do is pick sides and hope to be the winners. A real benevolent god would prefer we chose no sides. If we really wanted to resist pride and prejudice, there would be no dividing lines. And a true benevolent solo-god would appreciate that a lot more.



I do give christians a hard time, don't i ... ?
Well, i want to apologize to those who are genuine in their belief and are kind and don't use religion as a reason to hate. Sadly, you are the ones who are few and far between. I give everybody their fair chance. See them, listen to what they say, witness how they act (as those last 2 often come disjointed) ... and if a christian person proves to me that he IS kind and IS nice and that she only uses her religion privately within her own mind, and realizes that it is only ONE of the possible "answers" out there ... then i'll of course respect you. I won't feel the need insult you for your false intentions.
Christianity is my main dart board simply because it's the one that's the big religion out there in North America. If it were any other religion that was this big and influencial, i'd feel the same way, because human nature tends to have a way of bastardizing the popular culture ... corrupting it with power games and manipulation. No matter which god or gods or spirits were the most popular to put your faith in, this will just happen again!
People will join religion (something i think is just wrong saying in the first place ... you shouldn't have to JOIN anything to believe in something) simply to belong to a group. Why join a group? So they can think they are better than other groups. Be those "other" groups people who don't believe in the popular god, or even among different factions under the VERY SAME GOD!
Remember, christianity and judaism only got strong because it's foundations were built with the blood of the unbelievers. I mean the followers of the older religions, whose temples were destroyed by the Israelites "by order of god" (god wants tolerance, my ass). It could take any religious zealot with enough charisma to make a whole legion of sheep believe in one thing, and thus, gather that legion to go destroy any who do not believe in what the leader does. I doubt the jews and christians were the first religion to think it ... but they were the one that organized itself into an "unbeliever killing machine" the best.
Whether by force of arms, or force of parent-child, "If you don't believe this, honey, those soldiers over there are going to kill us." Thus starting the reign if a religion becoming huge.
For those who actually study Jesus, he was a good man. 18 years or so of his life is unrecorded, and anything written about him was written decades after he died, so his life is sketchy ... but if you study him and think of his own principals (besides the crap the bible added about him always saying to worship god) he was just a smart philosopher, who talked sense. A man who talked about non-violent resistance as a way to create peace. He was a rebel, he gathered a crew of fellow rebels ... could call him the Hippy of the ancient world. He was no divine intervention. He was just a man who was more educated than most people in his time, he visited india, and perhaps ireland (i was watching this thing on possible parts of Jesus's "missing" life, as there were stories from other surrounding countries about an old man, travelling, selling his carpentry in other lands. This man brought with him a son who was always seeking knowledge of the world, talking to people, learning from the Buddha - as it was believed one of the Buddha did live at that time - about the importance of peace and silence, rather than war and rage). His name really isn't even Jesus Christ, cuz the jews did just name stuff symbolically, ergo: "Son of God".
But then you must not call yourself a christian, because Christ did not believe in having a religion. He just believed in peace and love, and did not want a religion made of his name.
He was a philosopher who had some good ideas, then his name was taken by greedy rulers to take control of the small band of rebels struggling to restore freedom to the galaxy. (Well, my Star Wars referencing has hit again, what i meant to say was) Take control of the people who's lives were influenced by his teachings of peace and love ... leaders did not want their people to follow someone else's ideas. So someone was smart ... they took the name of christ and slowly weaved their own sick power game under the mask of his name. And that is how christianity was born. Say what is to be said ... but Do completely different!
How many of you church goers just go to see who's dressed better? Huh? That was the main reason my mom never subjected her kids to religion and church, because it was all petty social games, as if conjured right out of a grade 7 class room! She said when she went to church with her mom, Catholic church (it's the same god, same christ, just different rules), all the people sitting around here were only worried about whether they looked like they were dressed the "nicest" and "classiest" ... PRIDE ... Pride a deadly sin. When will people learn?



Why God is Impossible
(This was emailed to me by a guy named Joe. I did not write it, although i wish i had. This should explain to you exactly why the Jewish/Christian/Muslim god can't exist the way they describe him to exist)
If we are to have a concrete case against God, it has to be a solid one...and it starts there.
I've spoken with many people like you before (this was an arguement he wrote on a site called www.defendingthefaith.com ... the 'you' he refers to is not me, but the christians he was writing to), and after hearing my case, they agreed; so there's got to be something to it. It's all part of a philosophy I'm developing.
We are able to perceive objects because they have an Identity. To exist it must have an Identity. And these objects get their Identities from the set qualities they exhibit. We are able to differentiate object from object and concepts because their sets of qualities differ.
To make it simple, we are able to distinguish cats from plants because they obviously have different qualities.
If God exists, he also has an Identity - a set of inherent qualities that distinguish him from everything else in existence.
A set of qualities that no other thing in the world has.
And indeed, there are......do you know what they are?
It is very simple.... If God exists then he must be the highest conceivable being:
I am looking for qualities here.... God-like qualities. I am sure you've heard of them before.... the 4 Omni's? Omnipotent (all powerful), Omnibenevolent (all-good), Omniscient (all knowing), Omnipresent (all present) You see, the thing is that if someone is able to come up with a being more powerful than this.... Then we would change our conception of God to that. Because by definition...God IS the most powerful being. Now.....
Here is a simple lesson in Quantum Logic....You see, in the old way of thinking...if we were to disprove God, we would have to disprove ALL of him. But with Quantum Logic you only have to disprove ONE inherent quality that God exhibits. Because without that quality...God cannot be known as God anymore. Just like a tree with no branches is not a tree...but rather more like a log. (i don't really like his example here, perhaps he meant something more like, if a tree has been cut down, it is now no longer a tree, but a stump and a log ... if that's better at all, i'm not sure.)
This makes the task all the simpler.
Now here is the mission, to disprove ONE of the four Omni's and the concept of God falls apart.
and we shall do just that.
First...The Problem of Evil. It is four statements...and I'll ask what you think after I've mentioned all four.
If God CAN prevent evil but DOES NOT want to...then he is not all-good (omnibenevolent).
If God WANTS to prevent evil but CAN'T, then he is not all powerful (omnipotent).
If God cannot recognize the suffering of the innocent, then he is not wise, or all knowing (omniscient).
If God both CAN and WANTS to prevent evil, then why does evil exist? What do you think, religious people offer an easy way out of this... perhaps, but then I can say that if he punishes people for evil deeds, he is still not omnibenevolent.
The problem persists.
If God doesn't take interest in our actions, and good is not rewarded and evil punished, then it does us no good to believe in him in the first place. It would be just as good to say that he doesn't exist. We have to have a reason to believe.
remember, we're disproving the monotheistic God, and we are going by what monotheistic religions say...it all plays a role in God's behavior...and his behavior is also a quality.
Let me go ahead and tell you the way out [that christians will try to use]:
Free Will.
God gives us the free will to choose between good and evil.
That is why he CAN, but doesn't prevent it.
BUT (there is always a but)..... there is a problem with Free Will. this is the really hard blow...
let me give you a scenario, to make it easier to understand... First, God is omniscient (all knowing) and since he is also omnipotent (all powerful), he is not bounded by anything, which includes time.....and because God has all these qualities, he is also perfect.
so remember these three qualities when listening: Omniscience, Omnipotence, and perfection
here we go....
You are taking a math test in your third period math class. Now, since God is omniscient and is also not bounded by time, God already knows what grade you are getting before you even get the damn grade.... you might say "yes, but it was my free will that got me my grade"
No....
Because, God is perfect, God cannot know something that will not happen. God cannot think to himself "hmmmm....you are gonna get a D"...and then you go ahead and get an "A".
God cannot be wrong about something, because he is perfect. So God thinks "Hmmm...Joe is gonna get a D"...and you know what? You absolutely MUST get a D, because if you don't....God is NOT those three qualities I mentioned to you earlier. God CANNOT both be perfect and omniscient if he perceives something that is wrong.
In other words...God KNOWS you are gonna get a D and you absolutely MUST get a D, if God is to exist.
But there is a bigger problem.
If this is true, then our ultimate outcome is already determined for us. God already knows who is going to heaven and who is going to hell, because he is omniscient. Even worse, God KNEW this BEFORE he even created us. HE KNEW the sin of Adam and Eve, he KNEW he was going to destroy the world, he KNEW everything EXACTLY as it was going to happen.
SO here is our dilemma.....either God exists, OR there is free will. You cannot have both.
So if this is true, then it also does us little good to believe in God because like I said previously...this was all going to happen anyway. I can go kill and rape right now if I want...it was all predetermined (if God exists)
Either God is omniscient, or there is free will. If there is free will, then God is NOT omniscient; hence God is not God. Or he IS omniscient and we are all automatons doing his will, not ours.
SO here is the finale (for this argument anyway).....
1. God is omniscient and there is no free will. This knocks out his omnibenevolence (God is not God anymore)
2. Free Will exists and God is NOT omniscient (God is not God once again)
3. God's loss of omniscience also means he loses his omnipotence, hence there is something that he cannot do...which is knowing everything.
4. God's loss of omniscience also means he loses his perfection and wisdom.
5. It also means he loses his omnipresence (all present)....
In other words, God is not ONLY improbable......
God is impossible.

See? Wasn't that quite informative? I thought so.



The Big Picture
all thru the first testament, god paid attention to his followers ... then he sent jesus down ... and after jesus died, god played almost absolutely no part ... either he ignored is followers, or he just died. but as with the bible, i seem to have lost interest and stopped reading it. i don't know ... those angry thoughts against religions and all the angry thoughts against the millions of claims of "the only right way" just aren't going thru my head anymore. sure, they still tick me off, cuz these people don't realize how truly stupid they are, but i feel i'm stepping back a bit. i really don't know what is happening ... i don't seem to have the passion i used to have ... the passion that the guy who i was, who wrote my webpages, had. but i guess that just comes with being content, and knowing i can't really change people who are so fixed by their "only right way." i got tired of it. a nail picking at a brick wall, i felt like. so, i guess i just got tired. if there are errors in facts and stuff, just tell me and i'll see what i can do. cuz i might say some things that aren't true to some factions of "the only right way," but are true to others and stuff like that. christians can only see their way ... but when someone actually stands back and looks at the christians, one realizes how silly it all is. i mean, god does exactly everything that he says satan does! He claims he'll provide a greater world after death, but it can't be proven until you die ... god even endorsed animal sacrifice! god also is the one to have taken the violent route. i would probably rather follow the peaceful devil ... who doesn't even want to conflict over whether he sends worshippers out to kill babies or not ... God and Satan probably started out as some war between brothers ... one brother did what he felt was good and let others do the same ... the other brother wanted to boss someone around .... so, when the first brother disagreed with the second brother's greed, he was "cast" away and badmouthed by the controlling brother ... the brother who has won despite his brutal selfishness. there are too many takes on this whole thing than to look at it as, "it is above us, so it doesn't concern us" .... well, if we are supposed to believe it, we should be damn well informed of the matters concerning what is above us. and nothing has ever happened since then ... so, the brothers probably died. probably weren't anything more than high-tech humans who spoke in hebrew before it was called hebrew. angels and virgin mothers and stars shining down from the skies ... could they be no more than flight-adjusted soldiers, artificial inseminations, and lights cast down on the new mother from the floating ship above? sending down soldiers to declare that this new birth is a hybrid of the higher creatures with the lower ones? high-tech people who claim to be better people simply because they are high-tech? yet they start wars and killings and rapings and atomic bombings of sodoms and gamorrahs? everything doesn't fall into place yet ... how can anyone dare to believe in something so uncertain that they have to use an ancient text, uncertain in itself, to tell them what to believe in?

See why i love this guy?



Letters to an Islam Guy
This "little" section is full of letters that i wrote to this Islam guy who dared say that his way was the "Only Way." I liked a lot of these letters, so i will put them here:

you ask me how can i deny my own creator ... well then i must ask you, how can you jump to the conclusion that we even have a creator without any proof? what if it isn't jehovah or jesus or allah? what if it isn't even a god, but a human being? what if we actually just evolved? what if we were built as robots by beings made of energy to be able to control the realm of matter? has your god ever come down and talked to you and discussed with you the reasons why you should believe in him ... has he ever come, person to person to try to persuade you into believing in him? because you can't trust any person or book that tries to give you the reasons, because a person can be lying and a book is not proven! before you ask me if i can deny the existence of a creator, ask yourself this: "How dare i believe so strongly in one creator when there are so many other possibilities to consider, which are often far more believable than a ONE creator?" ask this to yourself. a peaceful religion does not create crusades to kill the non-believers. are you truly listening to what you are saying? if you believe some guy named muhammed, or jesus, or moses, or bill, or hank, or frank, etc.... what is the difference? if you believe that somebody is correct because THEY said that they are correct, then why would you not believe in me when i say that i am correct, and our god was made out of purple potatoes and lives in a palace among the grass where he commands his servants to kill the carrots? i said it. it is written here. why do you not believe in me? well, it is written. it is scripture now, so you have to believe me now! you are stuck! i'll go have a book written and published, and because it will have a "best seller" label, you will have to buy it, and you will have to die believing it! or else our purple potato god, named "Stepplewa" will send you to the land of the peas to rot! if you do not believe in my lord and master, you will go to the land of the peas! no doubt about it! here is a universal rule that i can slap together: "Every creation has a creator. One Stepplewa, and that's that!" There. Now, why do you not believe in Stepplewa? He loves you, and he will take care of you. all you have to do is give the church a bunch of money that the priests will use to buy expensive things while you starve. and then you have to make fools of yourselves on the alters to Stepplewa by praying these ridiculously long and irrelevant prayers that only waste your time. Praise be to Stepplewa! I, Nick, am the last prophet of Stepplewa! I am writing my memoirs right now, therefore, you MUST believe me, because I SAY SO! Does this whole thing sound familiar to you? I hope it does, because you are doing EXACTLY THIS to me. You are not really claiming to be the last prophet, yourself, but you sure seem to want to believe some words that were written on a piece of paper by a human claiming to be a god. Please, think before you speak!

i do look at myself, the skies, the seas, the air, my parents, the sperm, etc... and i do sit and think about it. but the thing is i am allowed to think about it! in my belief system i am allowed to explore other theories without being called some sort of a heathen. and of all the theories that i've explored, there is nothing that tells me in any way that there is a god. and i don't think lower of other people who choose to believe in gods or not. the thing that bothers me is that every way is the "only right way," and none of you guys will ever say, "hey, maybe i could be wrong." i don't believe in gods, but i do not say, "there are no gods and that's that! All i need is faith to believe in my fact." and you avoided the question again: why would you not believe me if i said i was a prophet? how did they know that moses was ever a true prophet? it was written that he always went alone to see god, and that he would go off in some hidden bush and then come back with a bunch of orders. sounds to me like a sneaky bugger. and you build your religion upon the shoulders of a religion that was built on the shoulders of the religion where a man, who hid in the bushes, claimed he talked to god? do you ever really sit and think about all of this? what if you are wrong? you cannot possibly believe that your way is the only correct way, because as far as us humans/robots can tell, there is no correct way (yet, if at all), other than to live and reproduce and die. the only things we are certain of are birth, life and death. and to fill the minds with less confusion and worry, people wrote stories about powerful people, or super-people beyond people who led us and created us and the winds and the cells and the air, etc... perhaps gods were just aliens (there are cave paintings of aliens, you know). perhaps gods are beings of pure energy that sought to control the realm of matter and created us robots and some tried to control us ... little did they realize that they, too, die. it can be all these possible answers because NOTHING IS CERTAIN yet! that is my point. my proofs: there are no proofs to prove your god or any other god to our best human technologies; no god (if any exist) has ever given up its arrogance to speak one word to the people that are supposed to worship it and love it (love is a 2 way thing ... i hope you realize ...) and love is not given by people saying, "oh yah ... he loves you ... it is written here .... but he doesn't have the balls to come and say it himself, so he just made us humans write to tell you that he loves you." it doesn't make any sense. so, my point bacically is: how dare you claim your way as the 100% way? there are too many possibilities to pass up, and if you believe in a certain way, then say, "I believe this is so, because ..." don't say, "It IS ... because some dead demi-god said so a long time ago!" logic doesn't work that way. TRUTH doesn't work that way. and i am not among the losers because i have lost nothing. i only lose when i say i win.



Christ = Brainwashing

There are so many things that i have witnessed to make me conclude that christianity is a brainwashing scam! Look at this: You are not allowed to love someone more than you love god or jesus. This forces you to choose between a person who you've known and loved for a very long time, and a god that has never taken the time to even speak with you! What good could this possibly do? It breaks up relationships (something i've been a victim of), to be replaced with a relationship that goes only one way! If god were your true father, you would sue him for neglect! And that's a form of abuse. If any other god, or spirit came along and claimed that he also had a rule that said he had to hide himself from his followers, this other god or spirit would be dismissed as a cult! Just because the bloody image of christ has a strangle-hold over a large amount of people, does not prove his existence! There are more Buddhists in the entire world, and the only reason they aren't as popular is because their religious figure-head does not and has never demanded death of, or destruction of the cities and shrines of the "unbelievers." There are so many more proofs of this brainwash and lies. And you christians are just gonna have to believe these truths because i have written them, therefore it is true because it is written, therefore it is the only truth because it is written here (in case you couldn't tell, i was using your most popular form of brainwashing tactics on you! did it work? why or why not?)
Here are my proofs:
1. "God exists ... oh, but you can't see him, and he won't talk to us."
Why can't I-
"SMACK! Shut up, it's true!!"

2. "God made the world flood a long time ago because the world was overrun by sin."
Why doesn't he flood us now? We have found so many more ways of sinning, and i am sure there is much more of it now!
"Oh, he promised that he would never do it again."
Oh ... he promised he'd never do it again ... so, with no proof that it ever happened in the first place, and a promise never to do it again, huh? Do you understand how this is a brainwashing tactic?

3. Why doesn't god talk to me or the world, instead of playing these cruel mind games, sending me to hell for not believing in him when he doesn't even give the time of day to represent himself?
"Oh, but he does! Haven't you ever felt happy? What explains that?"
Chemicals regulated by the brain that stimulate certain neurons in the limbic system of the brain.
"How do you explain those churches where they get inspired by god?"
If you get anybody who is a good, strong talker to round up a huge group of gullible people, anyone can make people feel the presence of whichever god happens to be in the trend. How do you explain the Hail-Bopp Comet cult?
"That was a cult."
You finally see where i'm going! That's good! Obviously, they had a strong leader who could talk up a convincing storm. It was convincing enough that the people killed themselves for the comet. Now, how is that any different from your god and his organization?
(Always in further desperate attempts to change the subject when they know they are in the wrong, they'll go back to the beginning question):"Why should god come down and talk to us? He's god, what gives you the right to order him to do anything?"
Do you NOT see the complete and total brainwashing done on this poor fellow? The only word your god ever speaks thru are human words and a book written by humans. Why should i follow a god that uses such forms of deceit? If he was still alive, wouldn't he keep conferences to make sure the people know his needs and desires? And wouldn't you think a truly good god would let the other gods have their say? How does he dare demand faith in him from us, when he obviously doesn't have faith in himeself? He ordered his people to destroy all documentation of "opposing" beliefs. He must have REALLY feared that people would discover his multiple faults compared to the less faulty religions! These actions were not fair and not just! A truly good god would never do such things!

4. "You are to give your souls to Jesus, or else you reach no salvation!!"
Why should i give (assuming we even have souls) our most precious body-part to someone who doesn't even try to earn it for himself? Besides, what am i supposed to be saved from? I am not in any danger. And if i am in danger, it is your god who is aiming the sniper-sight! Any leader who gains people by threats is NOT a good leader!

5. How DARE you force your children to go to one church, and one church only? Are you trying to brainwash your children into something that not even you know all about?
"If we do not lead our children, they will go astray."
Don't you even have the faith in your god to lead them on the right path? Do you truly disbelieve in your god that much?
Why would a god create a people just so that he can hide from them and make some people disbelieve him if he is the "only truth?"

"He gave us a choice!" (note: we would have a choice no matter which god we were under, so this is very weak and branwashy!)
If he truly does exist, why should it be a choice at all? Sure, maybe he gives us the choice to follow him ... but he doesn't even show himself, and how are we to follow him when there is nothing that suggests that he exists in the first place? Remember, if we don't follow him, we go to hell ... but he is the one who told us what hell was ... now, a leader who has already threatened us, murdered some of us and asked us to sacrifice the "sweet smell of burning animal blood," do you think he'd have much of a problem in lying to us about what hell is? Or even what HE is? How can you put so much trust in an ever so obviously corrupted man, and claim him to be your god? He makes hell out to be torturous just because he lusts for all our soles just for himself! hiding it in a "choice". Now, since hell is no more than the absence of god, this means that hell is every other religion, or belief, or non-religion or non-belief. So, all it means is a mind-set. Hell is the disbelief of jehovah. And what true harm can come of that? Any god can claim to be the right way or else he'll throw you in hell, but the truly benevolent and loving gods would never think of it! Truly good gods would give a choice without "creating" a torturous land with deceit.

6. "She's healed! Thank you God for this miracle!"
"She died. I'll kill that doctor!"
What's wrong with this picture? God is given the credit for keeping someone alive, and the doctor is blamed for letting her die. Well, if god kept one girl alive, did he not kill the other girl? Oh, and i thought your god also vowed to never influence anything in the human realm (a similar-to-Noah's-Ark-Flood type of brainwashing tactic).

Do you now see how truly twisted this religion is?
Why would you choose to stand on such a hole-filled (holey) floor?

Follow YOUR Mind!
Not somebody else's!

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Random Quotes or Notes i might expand on...

  • If there is a miracle in a hospital, God takes the glory ... but if someone dies, God is not blamed. Why is that?



    The Christians are Restless!

    Name: ChristLike
    Website: God lives
    Referred by: Clicked on a 'Guestbooks by GuestWorld' Button
    From: hmmmmmmHeavennn
    Time: 1999-06-29 17:08:00
    Comments: We can tell by your expertise of the english language that you are one of Satans more pathetic losers. You will regret your life one day....so live it up darling.LLLLLLLLLLLLosing the final decision must really suck.

    This is an entry in my main guestbook. Now, is this the christianly thing to say? Poor fella. Such anger! Thinks he comes from a heaven. Well, i know where he's going if there is such a thing as a hell! And people like this are supposed to make me convert? Such evil flows with anger such as this. It's a wonder that christians don't realize who the real devil is!
    "Anger, fear, aggression ... the dark side are they!"

    If i was to walk up to you on the street, and tell you of some god called Gerthala, who had a giant book written about him, thousands of years ago, about how he is so great and how he created some sorta evil god called Parlikky, and that Gerthala will send you to Parlikky if you are bad, and it is written here that Gerthala is the only real god, and that all other religions are evil, heretical creations of Parlikky (including christianity), why would you not believe me? I am using the exact reasons you are using! this god even used threats instead of intelligence! Just the same as YOUR god! If i met a god who told me to follow him or he'd hurt me ... i might follow him, but i would not love him! It is forced love, and defeats the purpose of love at all! If i met a god who gave me intelligent reasons to follow him, and they made sense to me, i'd follow him. I dare not ask for less. That would just be premature, immature, and just plain easy-to-control! I will not follow a human who tells me about a god that is too arrogant to show his face to his "servants." A true leader doesn't see his people as servants! A TRUE leader doesn't take EVERY opportunity to call his subjects worthless! A true leader, a good leader, is not the god you call Jehovah! I'll see you in Parlikky!







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